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  • 40 yrs of Chicano Studies

    40 years of cultivated "outrage". 40 years of denouncing the white cucui and playing victim. 40 years of Chicano insertion into the political arena and subversion of the educational system and the result?

    He said that the dropout rate at his alma mater, Lincoln High School in Los Angeles, is about the same as 40 years ago.
    The article:

    Hispanic activist speaks to students


    Things have changed since Bobby Verdugo walked out of school to protest discrimination.

    "The mayor of LA is Latino, and we have a Hispanic Supreme Court justice," he said. . "These are things we couldn't fathom 40 years ago."

    But in a talk to Moreno Valley High School students Tuesday, the 59-year-old Verdugo said some things stay the same.

    He said that the dropout rate at his alma mater, Lincoln High School in Los Angeles, is about the same as 40 years ago.

    Speaking as part of Hispanic Heritage Month, the Hispanic rights activist recounted how he was one of thousands of students who in 1968 staged walkouts at several East Los Angeles high schools to demand equality in education opportunities.

    "There was so much anger and disappointment among Chicano students," Verdugo said. "We wanted things to change."

    He said that Hispanic students were often ridiculed and beaten by their teachers for expressing their heritage through ways such as speaking Spanish in class.

    Verdugo dropped out of high school in 12th grade. He went back to school and got a degree in social work from Cal State Los Angeles in 1994. In 1995, he started Con Los Padres, one of the country's first teenage fatherhood programs for Hispanics.

    Stephanie Martinez, 17, a student who helped organize the event, said she hopes Verdugo's talk can help students from different backgrounds understand what challenges Hispanic students had to overcome to have the rights they have today.

    "I hope people realize that Asians and blacks weren't the only ones treated badly," she said.

    About 65 percent of the students at Moreno Valley High School are of Hispanic descent, said teacher Pete Loza.
    A nice quote here:
    We are NEVER going to catch up to the youth drop out or youth gang problem as long as we keep expanding the number of problem youths through immigration and illegal entry. We educate the latest batch and thousands more are let in to fill the void
    Last edited by ilbegone; 10-01-2009, 08:18 AM.

  • #2
    The pick apart

    He said that Hispanic students were often ridiculed and beaten by their teachers for expressing their heritage through ways such as speaking Spanish in class.
    40 years ago, if you were a smart ass or trouble maker, you got your ass smacked. Didn't matter what color your skin was. I believe my white ass wore out several paddles then referred to as "The Board of Education".

    I know a Korean War Vet who grew up in East Los Angeles, He told me that even though his father was from Michoacan, he couldn't communicate with Mexicans. A lot of American born Hispanic kids back then didn't speak Spanish. I think I'll look him up and ask him about the "beatings" in school for speaking Spanish.

    In 1958 Octavio Paz said that the "Mexicans" of Los Angeles didn't want to be either Mexican or American, but reveled in not fitting in with society of either countries.

    In 1946, there was a teacher in the Inland Empire who enjoyed beating her kindergarten students (She was "equal opportunity". Race didn't matter). One little girl thought she was going to get a beating for not getting into class fast enough after recess, so she ran home.

    Her Mexican mother asked her why was she was home and where was her coat? The girl told the story. Mama rapidly exited the house, and returned shortly with the coat.

    To this day, the woman doesn't know what transpired between the teacher and her mother, but that white teacher steered clear of that little Hispanic girl from that day on.

    And that was in the days when white and brown were separated by the tracks.

    Stephanie Martinez, 17, a student who helped organize the event, said she hopes Verdugo's talk can help students from different backgrounds understand what challenges Hispanic students had to overcome to have the rights they have today.

    "I hope people realize that Asians and blacks weren't the only ones treated badly," she said.
    The victimized race card, again.

    Another recitation of the 1882 Chinese exclusion act and and Chicano hijacking of the black civil rights movement without saying the words.

    About 65 percent of the students at Moreno Valley High School are of Hispanic descent, said teacher Pete Loza.
    And what is the drop out rate in that high school?
    Last edited by ilbegone; 10-01-2009, 02:14 PM.

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    • #3
      Moreno Valley High

      Moreno Valley High

      Moreno Valley High School is located in Moreno Valley, CA and is one of 9 high schools in Moreno Valley Unified School District. It is a public school that serves 2251 students in grades 9-12.

      Moreno Valley High School did not make AYP in 2009. Under No Child Left Behind, a school makes Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP) if it achieves the minimum levels of improvement determined by the state of California in terms of student performance and other accountability measures.*See Moreno Valley High School's test results to learn more about school performance.

      A school's Academic Performance Index (API) is a scale that ranges from 200 to 1000 and is calculated from the school's performance in the Standardized Testing and Reporting (STAR) Program. The state has set 800 as the API target for all schools to meet.

      Moreno Valley High School had an API growth score of 644 in 2009. California uses the Academic Performance Index (API) to measure annual school performance and year-to-year improvement. Moreno Valley High School's 2009 base score was 606 and the school did meet its 2008 school-wide growth target.

      In 2008, Moreno Valley High School had 21 students for every full-time equivalent teacher. The California average is 21 students per full-time equivalent teacher.

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      Moreno Valley High School*2009 Test Scores

      Dismal.

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      *About Moreno Valley High School Students
      Student Economic Level
      Average Students Participating in Free or Reduced-Price Lunch
      This School 75 %
      State 51%

      Student Ethnicity
      This School State Average Hispanic 68 % 49 %
      Black 18 % 7 %
      White 9 % 29 %
      Asian 2 % 8 %
      Filipino 1 % 3 %
      Pacific Islander < 1 % < 1 %
      American Indian/Alaskan Native < 1 % < 1 %
      Multiple or No Response < 1 % 3 %

      Student Subgroups
      English Language Learners

      This School 29 % State Average 25 %


      Student Completion

      Annual Dropout Rate for Grades 9-12

      This School 7 % State Average 6 %
      Last edited by ilbegone; 10-01-2009, 02:15 PM.

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      • #4
        Another blurb concerning East LA Schools:

        40 Years After Walkouts, Little Has Changed, Latinos Say

        The dropout rate in East Los Angeles is still very high. In fact, “The dropout rate is higher today than 40 years ago,” says Patron


        I'm having trouble finding info for Lincoln High, but here's this:

        Abraham Lincoln Senior High School in Los Angeles, California (CA)

        City-data.com school rating (using weighted 2006 test average as compared to other schools in California) from 0 (worst) to 100 (best) is 18.

        Once again:
        We are NEVER going to catch up to the youth drop out or youth gang problem as long as we keep expanding the number of problem youths through immigration and illegal entry. We educate the latest batch and thousands more are let in to fill the void

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        • #5
          Amazing how much money it costs the US taxpayers to educate kids on how to more identify with your ethnicity, and then it costs again to teach everyone else not to.

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          • #6
            We stood up, and it mattered.

            By Luis Torres


            The Chicano walk out of 1968 was about dignity and fundamental change that we're still striving for...

            We also wanted to protest the conditions that led to a drop out rate hovering around 45%. Barely half of us were making it out of high school. Something was desperately wrong and we wanted to do something about it...

            I gained a pride in my heritage that made me more comfortable with who I was -- a young man whose parents were from Mexico. I overcame the shame that I used to feel as a kid when my mother "spoke funny" in public. ..

            In those times, I remember reading that "the best way to get the Man off your back is to stand up." We stood up on that day...

            Forty years ago, the Los Angeles school board was the Man. Today it is an ally with the community in the effort to improve education...

            The drop out rate at my alma mater, Lincoln High School, and the other Eastside high schools is still about 45%...

            PDF:



            HTML:

            So, Mr Torres, what are you trying to say?
            Last edited by ilbegone; 10-01-2009, 09:52 AM.

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            • #7
              . I overcame the shame that I used to feel as a kid when my mother "spoke funny" in public. ..
              I'll bet she still does too.

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              • #8
                About Abraham Lincoln Senior High School

                Abraham Lincoln Senior High School is located in Los Angeles, CA and is one of 199 high schools in Los Angeles Unified School District. It is a magnet school that serves 2780 students in grades 9-12.

                Magnet schools are public schools that offer a specialized curriculum or educational philosophy, often with a specific focus or theme. Magnet schools promote student diversity because they are open to students outside the normal school district boundaries and often attract high caliber students through competitive programs.

                Abraham Lincoln Senior High School did not make AYP in 2009. Under No Child Left Behind, a school makes Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP) if it achieves the minimum levels of improvement determined by the state of California in terms of student performance and other accountability measures.*

                A school's Academic Performance Index (API) is a scale that ranges from 200 to 1000 and is calculated from the school's performance in the Standardized Testing and Reporting (STAR) Program. The state has set 800 as the API target for all schools to meet.

                Abraham Lincoln Senior High School had an API growth score of 587 in 2009. California uses the Academic Performance Index (API) to measure annual school performance and year-to-year improvement. Abraham Lincoln Senior High School's 2009 base score was 609 and the school did not meet its 2008 school-wide growth target.

                In 2008, Abraham Lincoln Senior High School had 23 students for every full-time equivalent teacher. The California average is 21 students per full-time equivalent teacher.
                Abraham Lincoln Senior High School Student Diversity
                Students by Ethnicity*(2008)
                Hispanic 81 %
                Asian 17 %
                Black < 1 %
                White < 1 %
                Filipino < 1 %
                Multiple or No Response < 1 %
                Pacific Islander < 1 %
                American Indian/Alaskan Native < 1 %

                Student Economic Level
                Students Participating in Free or Reduced-Price Lunch

                This School 76 % State Average 51 %

                Student Subgroups

                English Language Learners

                This School 37 % State Average 25 %

                Student Completion


                Annual Dropout Rate for Grades 9-12

                This School 7 % State Average 6 %

                http://www.education.com/schoolfinde...n-senior-high/

                Someone has to be lying about the drop out rates:

                Two Chicano activist alumni claim it has been unchanged at this school at almost 50% for forty years, yet this statement claims 7%

                Both Moreno Valley and Lincoln have five star ratings according to this source, and solicited commentary posted about both schools is glowing. Something stinks.

                Also:

                Abraham Lincoln Senior High School in Los Angeles, California (CA)

                City-data.com school rating (using weighted 2006 test average as compared to other schools in California) from 0 (worst) to 100 (best) is 18.

                http://www.city-data.com/school/abra...r-high-ca.html
                Last edited by ilbegone; 10-01-2009, 02:16 PM.

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                • #9
                  Lincoln high school profile page http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bi...ent&which=8729

                  A bunch of numbers:

                  661 Spanish speaking English Learners out of a total of 769 English learners, out of a total of 2777 students.

                  81.1% Hispanic

                  Drop out rate 8% with a derived 4 year dropout rate of 33.4%

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                  • #10
                    Lincoln high Drop out rate 11%


                    Article states California has a 24% dropout rate, focus of article is in Bay area


                    An LA times piece which has a couple of student views by Johnson Xue (his own writing) concerning Lincoln High School:

                    Excerpts:

                    clubs in the school are more for like the asian students not the latino.... that is a problem...... more clubs not just an asian club...

                    The small problems are: too many students are into period 6 p.e in a sport where all they do is just come to school to be in p.e .... a great example of this are the football players... 90% of all the members in the football team all they live for is football, they dont care about period 1-5, only period 6 p.e ... same goes for other students in a sport. 2nd small problem is: in nearly all the regular classes every1 DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.... only if they're in an honor class than individuals care a lil but in ap classes they care more... so basically students a large majority of them are in regular classes where its not hard not intense so NO NEED TO STUDY, because the teachers dont force them to study only if they're in honor class (still rarely) and ap classes (study a lot).

                    SO THE BIGGEST OUT OF ALL THESE SMALL PROBLEMS ARE: GANGS, LARGE CLASSES, AND MORE ACTIVITIES WEAR ALL STUDENTS FEEL WELCOME, AND CHANGING HS REQUIREMENTS, AND PUT AN END TO STUDENTS WHO DAYDREAM NOTHING BUT PERIOD 6 P.E WHERE THEY ARE IN A SPORT/TEAM, AND HAVE MORE AP CLASSES AND ADULT SCHOOL CLASSES THAT ARE 1X OR 2X A WEEK.
                    http://projects.latimes.com/schools/...n-senior-high/

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                    • #11
                      An excerpt from an essay or letter by Professor Ramon Munoz (A man obsessed with informing the reader that there is a tilde over the “n” in his last name).

                      Full of the usual rambling Latino Activist rants and containing much electronic jibberish that makes the read difficult:

                      ...According to the recent Census report, 30 percent of Latino youth drop out of high
                      school
                      -- compared to 8 percent of white students and 12 percent of
                      blacks.

                      In some inner-city school districts, the drop out rates for
                      Latinos are even higher.


                      And the majority of Latino students who are
                      fortunate to graduate from high school are not eligible for college
                      admission because they have been academically ill equipped...

                      Ramon Munoz
                      Academic Counselor
                      School of Social Sciences
                      University of California, Irvine
                      Well, Mr Munoz (with the tilde over the "n"), The white devil doesn't run the educational system anymore.
                      Last edited by ilbegone; 10-01-2009, 12:15 PM.

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                      • #12
                        A “Si se puede” page which has three articles.

                        The first concerning Sal Castro, an educator involved in the 1968 walk outs, and the second, entitled:

                        Second Report on Education Condition in SW States Forthcoming

                        An excerpt:


                        It comes as no surprise to schol-
                        ars, graduate students and most
                        informed practitioners that the over-
                        all educational status of Latinos has
                        not changed significantly.
                        Progress
                        or gains have been off set by wors-
                        ening economic conditions of states
                        and the nation. In short, high school
                        drop out rates remain high (30 to
                        40 percent) and are typically under-
                        estimated or reported numbers are
                        suspect.
                        The achievement gaps con-
                        tinue to persist between Latinos and
                        (Continued on page four)

                        http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a

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                        • #13
                          One last one, then I'm done for now.

                          Is this formula for determining drop out rate just another shell game for presenting numbers to be crunched?

                          (these numbers are for 1986)

                          Excerpts:

                          Using New Definition of Dropout

                          The state Department of Education previously had labeled a dropout as a student who leaves school and does not ask for a transcript to be sent to another public or private school within 45 days.

                          Under the new definition, administrators found that, for the 1986-87 school year, 6.9% of students in San Diego dropped out in grades 9 through 12. They then extrapolated the rate over four years and came up with the 26%.

                          Using the same definition for ethnic groups, the four-year district dropout rate for Latinos is estimated at 39.2%; for Indochinese, 29.5%; for blacks, 27.9%; for whites, 22.6%; for Asians, 21.6%, and for Filipinos, 12.4%. The Indochinese category includes Vietnamese, Khmer (Cambodian), Lao and Hmong ethnic students.
                          Using a new state definition for what constitutes a school dropout, 26% of all high school students who enter ninth grade in the San Diego Unified School District drop out before graduating four years later.

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for posting this Ibegone, what they cry and cry again really amazes me. I went to grade school in San Pedro in the same years (early 60's). No one beat anyone because of their ethnicity. The ethnic make up of our school was about 30% White, 20% Black, 25% Hispanic, and the remaining 25% were a mix of Philippine, Chinese, Japanese and others. The only one I know of who became a Doctor was a Black student, he didn't seem to feel held back. Everyone spoke English, and not Spanglish, there wasn't any problem with speaking English properly. Everyone considered themselves an American and was proud to be one. There was some racism, but it was among the Blacks and Hispanics. Many kept to their own group and didn't associate with the others. But that wasn't true of everyone. My first best friend was a Black girl named Joyce. She went to the Catholic school in town, so we only hung out while out of school. Maybe San Pedro was different than other parts of LA, especially East LA where the racial mix wasn't so much of different ethnicity's.

                            They keep trying to force 'diversity' on us, yet places like East LA are anything but diverse. They've made it into a toilet and no one besides themselves wants to be around it. Then they complain that they're not being respected while at the same time dropping out of school and having babies before their bodies have even fully matured. Those that have tried hard to get out of the barrio and succeeded need to speak up and stop the continued 'pride' crap of a culture that is bringing them down. What so many have done to themselves won't stop because they won't face the fact that their culture condones the destruction of itself. Many come from a failed country and want to continue that same path here. So many don't respect an education or investing in it, only if it's free. And then they want to study about their own failed culture, but change the facts to please themselves. They blame this country for making them victims, yet don't do anything to change the culture that put them where they are. It's so much easier to cry victim.
                            What's unfortunate is that the Americans who are Hispanic have such a hard time when they try to disassociate with that failed barrio culture. The liberal left has made being a victim, a noble cause.
                            Last edited by kjl; 10-01-2009, 01:30 PM.

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                            • #15
                              LAUSD BOARD OF DIRECTORS



                              Marguerite Poindexter LaMotte

                              Of all the biographies, Lamotte's is the least self serving, least self promotional. A black woman, she has impressive early achievement and graduated with a Masters degree in Education at LSU in 1965. LaMotte has been involved in the LAUSD from one end of the spectrum to the other since 1973.

                              ******

                              Monica Garcia

                              MS” Monica Garcia is the “unanimously elected by her peers as president of the Board of Education

                              Her biography is actually a resume which could suck chrome off a bumper.

                              While she has worked in the school system, it doesn't appear she's ever been a teacher.

                              Ms. García was born and raised in East Los Angeles. She attended local schools and graduated from the University of California, Berkeley with Bachelor of Arts degrees in Chicano Studies and Political Science. She later earned her Masters in Social Work from the University of Southern California.”

                              How would Ms Garcia respond to a white male holding a door open for her?

                              *****

                              Tamar Galatzan

                              Tamar is a tireless advocate on behalf of civil rights, excellent public schools, social justice, and safe neighborhoods.

                              Buzzwords which leads one to believe she would create a race issue if one wasn't handy to focus on.

                              A graduate of Birmingham High School in the San Fernando Valley, UCLA, and Hastings College of the Law in 1994,

                              “From April 1996 through June 2002, Tamar served as Western States Associate Counsel for the Anti-Defamation League.”

                              [From the ADL website:
                              “The Anti-Defamation League was founded in 1913 "to stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure justice and fair treatment
                              to all." Now the nation's premier civil rights/human relations agency, ADL fights anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry, defends democratic ideals and protects civil rights for all.”]
                              Reading Galatzan's Biography/Resume, it seems she is a self appointed one woman EEOC enforcer, civil rights activist, and criminal prosecutor. Probably someone to be “politically correct” with or else.

                              “...her conviction that the education system is failing many of our children. As evidence, she points to a high drop-out rate; mediocre test scores;”

                              *****

                              Steve Zimmer

                              According to his Biography/Resume, Steve is a very busy white man, but this sums him up:

                              “He is a long time supporter of immigrant rights and progressive labor in Los Angeles. Steve was the founder and leader of a teacher’s group that led opposition to Proposition 187...”

                              Steve doesn't seem to have very many schools in his district 4. Untrusted Gabacho?

                              *****

                              Yolie Flores Aguilar

                              Augilar's Biography/Resume is more down to earth than the other “Latinas”.

                              “A nationally-renowned and tireless advocate for children”

                              “Aguilar served as CEO of the Los Angeles County Children’s Planning Council”

                              “Aguilar received her B.A. from the University of Redlands and her master’s in social welfare from the University of California, Los Angeles.”

                              And more.

                              Lincoln High School is in Aguilar's district 5.

                              *****

                              Nury Martinez

                              From her Biography/Resume, she seems like she could be very pushy.

                              Nury is an exemplary role model for young Californians – especially for young
                              Latinas seeking to make a difference in their communities. She is a tireless young
                              warrior
                              for public education, working families, environmental justice and human
                              rights
                              .”

                              All the "activist" buzzwords which indicates she arrives with stir paddle in hand, with a racist to be found under every rock.

                              “she is a product of the public schools, from Pacoima Elementary to San Fernando High. She was the first in her family to graduate from college.”

                              “The child of immigrant parents...” Three guesses as to where she stands on illegal immigration?

                              “Before being elected to the LAUSD Board, Nury served as the Mayor of the City of San Fernando.

                              I've worked in San Fernando. The place struck me as trashed and way overstocked with illegals and gangbangers. Historically the place of two very different Latino American worlds from mostly English speaking in Richie Valens' 1950's to the Y2K Bastion of illegal migration and Rey Berrios “Cholo Style” gang bangers.

                              Nury Martinez [actually] lives in the City of San Fernando”.

                              *****

                              Dr. Richard Vladovic

                              “Dr. Richard Vladovic has been involved in the education of children since the late1960s.”

                              Vladovic has been a teacher and has worked his way up from the trenches.

                              "Dr. Vladovic also proudly served in the Army and retired from the United States Army Reserves at the rank of Infantry Major. During his time in the military, he also served as a Commander, Brigade Race Relations Officer, and Staff Officer". [Vladovic has to be a couple of centuries old]

                              Vladovic seems to be involved mainly with educational programs.

                              Vladovic's Biography/Resume doesn't strike me so pushy like most of the others.



                              *****

                              Forty years of Chicano studies
                              Last edited by ilbegone; 10-02-2009, 02:14 PM.

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