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Old 08-13-2009, 10:29 AM
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Default Anchor Babies Could Collect Over $575 Million in Welfare

From The Santa Clarita Signal:

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Source: Office of Supervisor Michael D. Antonivich
Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, Fifth District
Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 3:37 p.m.
POSTED Aug. 11, 2009 5:20 p.m.

LOS ANGELES COUNTY - Figures from the Department of Public Social Services show that children of illegal aliens in Los Angeles County collected nearly $22 million in welfare and over $26 million in food stamps in June, according to county Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich.

Projected over a 12 month period, this would exceed $575 million.

Annually the cost of illegal immigration to Los Angeles County taxpayers exceeds $1 billion dollars, which includes $350 million for public safety, $400 million for health care, and $500 million in welfare and food stamps allocations.

Twenty-four percent of the county's total allotment of welfare and food stamp benefits goes directly to U.S.-born children of illegal aliens.

"Illegal immigration continues to have a catastrophic impact on Los Angeles County taxpayers," Antonovich said. "The total cost for illegal immigrants to county taxpayers exceeds $1 billion a year - not including the millions of dollars for education."
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:17 AM
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If you can ever back Antoniovich please do so. He is the only one in LA who has ever said anything about how much money is spent on the Invaders.

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Old 08-13-2009, 02:58 PM
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Anchor babies should get NOTHING from us, anchor babies are JUST as ILLEGAL as their OUTLAW OUTSIDER parents are!
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I agree with you Rimo, Antoniovich is someone I would really like to meet and shake his hand.
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Old 08-13-2009, 06:52 PM
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If you can ever back Antoniovich please do so. He is the only one in LA who has ever said anything about how much money is spent on the Invaders.

Quite right. He stands out among "old school" LA politicians (Gloria Molina, Zev Yaroslavsky, etc.) for his candor about what this open borders mess is costing us.
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Illegal immigration continues to have a catastrophic impact on Los Angeles County taxpayers," Antonovich said. "The total cost for illegal immigrants to county taxpayers exceeds $1 billion a year - not including the millions of dollars for education."
How exactly is welfare funded?

County, State, Federal, or a combination?

How much is actually extracted from county residents in any county form of taxation, such as property, sales, etc...

If LA county didn't have any illegal aliens collecting welfare or otherwise sucking up revenue, would that be a billion dollars extra in the county treasury, or would that be a billion dollars the county wouldn't be receiving from state or federal, flat no gain no loss?

I'm not making an argument, I'm just trying to understand how it works.

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How exactly is welfare funded?

County, State, Federal, or a combination?

How much is actually extracted from county residents in any county form of taxation, such as property, sales, etc...

If LA county didn't have any illegal aliens collecting welfare, would that be a billion dollars extra in the county treasury, or would that be a billion dollars the county wouldn't be receiving from state or federal, flat no gain no loss?

I'm not making an argument, I'm just trying to understand how it works.
Welfare is federally funded. The states comply with welfare reform that went into effect about ten years ago. But the counties distribute the money and paperwork to qualify. Those county offices are where the problems start.
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:46 AM
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Welfare is federally funded. The states comply with welfare reform that went into effect about ten years ago. But the counties distribute the money and paperwork to qualify. Those county offices are where the problems start.
Who actually determines how the money is dispersed and creates county policy as to who qualifies?

How much is written policy and how much is an unwritten "this is the way you will do it if you wish to remain employed by the county" despite written policy and federal law? What comes into mind is the fact that California allows extended welfare status much longer than federal rules allow. Also the resistance in the State Legislature that there will be no verification of citizenship in order to collect welfare.

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Counties are allowed some flexibility on how they set up programs, but the feds have issued them both guidelines and rules. The feds outreach program was designed precisely to get more people on food stamps.
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Old 08-15-2009, 09:00 AM
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Where does ultimate responsibility lie for the fraud which occurs?

I worked for a multi billion dollar company where a manager would work hard on next year's local budget to be presented to middle management for approval. The proposed budget would be sent back with the notification of areas where "improvement" needed to be made. By the time the proposal was bounced back and forth several times, it was a fraudulent work which improved the company's bottom line while bilking the customer base. And if there was ever an investigation by the appropriate authorities, guess who would be hung out to dry.

Is this the same idea?
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