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Old 07-26-2007, 08:48 PM
CitaDeL CitaDeL is offline
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Default CRPA Bulletin; SF College Police Chief Resigns over NO GUNS policy

From a CRPA email bulletin...


The police chief at City College of San Francisco has resigned after failing to persuade the school to let his police officers carry firearms. Chief Carl Koehler had recently received a rating of "satisfactory to outstanding" on his recent performance review, and administrators had recommended that his three -year contract be extended. Koehler began pushing for a policy change to allow his officers to carry guns two years ago, and renewed his efforts after Cho Seung-Hui killed 27 students and five faculty members April 16 at Virginia Tech.

San Francisco City College has 30 police officers and 10 security officers. The department depends on San Francisco police to help with incidents in which armed officers may be needed, such as an Apr. 24 case in which a 53-year-old student was arrested after shouting that he was going to kill his classmates.

Koehler said that after the Virginia Tech massacre that his officers were at a disadvantage without guns. "We are here on campus and we know the buildings and we are going to be the first ones on scene," he said. "Now our plan is to have our officers back off and get the armed officers there. . . When something happens, minutes are very important and we do rely on the San Francisco Police Department. They are awsome, but they do have their issues of staffing."

The insistence on a no-guns policy is unusual on college campuses but is a long standing tradition at City College, Chancellor Phillip Day said on June 11. Day said he had received Chief Koehler's letter of resignation, dated May 29, which was scheduled to be effective June 22.

"I know that some other community college districts have their police force armed," Day said. "We do not, and I think that's a reflection of the overall culture and climate of the school in San Francisco. . . in terms of nonviolence."

Koehler spent 29 years with the San Francisco Sheriff's Department, rising to chief deputy sheriff, before coming to City College.

The college's Board of Trustees has the authority to decide whether officers carry guns, but Day said Koehler's suggestion has never gotten that far. Coordinated letter-writing campaigns have periodically urged administrators to change the policy, but students, faculty members and staffers overwhelmingly favor keeping the campus gun-free, the chancellor said.

"Students may feel safer, but they are not, " said CRPA attorney Chuck Michel. "This policy doesn't stop a criminal from bringing a gun on campus. It just ensures that a criminal will not face resistance!!
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:12 PM
Bonfire Bonfire is offline
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More like controlling Americans. The way SF is now this is a bad move those young people need armed guards. Those students should be carrying pepperspray and stunguns if you ask me
"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life".
-John F. Kennedy

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Old 07-27-2007, 10:48 PM
CitaDeL CitaDeL is offline
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Originally Posted by Bonfire View Post
More like controlling Americans. The way SF is now this is a bad move those young people need armed guards. Those students should be carrying pepperspray and stunguns if you ask me
Those students should be packing their own sidearms instead of cowing to the leftists who would have them dependent upon unarmed campus 'police' for their safety.

There was a similar discussion with administrative officials a year or so before the Virginia Tech massacre... While it was not illegal by State or local statute to carry weapons on campus, the policy made it an offense in which a student would face expulsion.
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:23 PM
errandgirl43 errandgirl43 is offline
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Unbelieveable......when something truly bad happens.....he won't remember anything he said about not needing guns.........I will never understand the kooky left.
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Old 09-20-2009, 02:38 PM
joazinha joazinha is offline
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Sometimes violence is the ONLY way to SETTLE things!
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