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Old 07-14-2010, 09:23 AM
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Default Civil Code 2945-2495.11

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So by acting as independent contractors each employee becomes in violation of being a foreclosure consultant?

When you say, "go after" I think it becomes a question of criminal or civil and which department looks into the matter. The DA wants more of an offense such as grand theft. I've already spoken to them. The AG would be the place but this where you say files go to rest in peace but with all the talk from Jerry Brown and Arnold about foreclosure consulting. I'm thinking USLA fits it to the tee. So by having the employees become independent contractors USLA is letting them take the fall. This is all becoming a lot like bad mortgages and homeowners.
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Have you read any of the contracts?
Yes, I have read two.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:37 AM
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So by acting as independent contractors each employee becomes in violation of being a foreclosure consultant?

When you say, "go after" I think it becomes a question of criminal or civil and which department looks into the matter. The DA wants more of an offense such as grand theft. I've already spoken to them. The AG would be the place but this where you say files go to rest in peace but with all the talk from Jerry Brown and Arnold about foreclosure consulting. I'm thinking USLA fits it to the tee. So by having the employees become independent contractors USLA is letting them take the fall. This is all becoming a lot like bad mortgages and homeowners.
Everyone's experience may not be identical, so their cause of action against the contractor may not be the same. But in many instances, it appears the contractors held themselves out as fraud investigators to sell their product. I'd question whether any of them had business license to operate. Operating as a business when you are unlicensed is a cause to sue over. Misrepresenting yourself is too. My point is, collect the money you were cheated out of from each source.

Yeah, I have very little to no faith in the AG's office. While they may clamp down on the operations as a whole, I doubt they are going to get anyone's money back for them. Hell, I've been showing their office some blatant violations of the Charitable corp codes, the foot dragging goes on and on, and they claim indigence. I see them as publicity hounds, and once that goes, they get pretty distant on the issues.
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The business card has a lot of numbers on them. what we have to try and determine is which ones are USLA's and which are the contractors. In doing reverse phone searches, one number leads us to the Walnut Grove area. From what I've heard from a few others, their contractors were from nearby areas as well, which leads me to believe USLA is recruiting in certain areas, or is at least having luck recruiting in those areas. One other was in Manteca, and another in the nearby stockton area.
In suing the contractors themselves, you can subpeona their related info. You can use the small claims court venue for this to start with. It will be intersting to see how USLA reacts to this. Will they come to the contractors aid, or just say, "you're an independent and you are supposed to handle your own legal problems". My guess would be the latter.
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I think it would be a good idea to try and go out there on Firday in support of gamblingbob.
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I think it would be a good idea to try and go out there on Firday in support of gamblingbob.
I am one of the strongest proponents of public venue. The lawsuit against Bob can be managed, as it all has to be proven first. If there are any issues than can be mitigated and altered so as not to invite litigation that will succeed, then I would do that and resume my public venue. We have offered GamblingBob support on that.
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:24 PM
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If they're independent contractors than mine was Roland Sison. I had little contact via e-mail with Gabriel Thomas. But Roland handle all the calls.
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How many of you actually met a live person during your initial meetings with the investigators?

Any phone numbers you have that might be related solely to the independents would be helpful, as well as any contact info other than that.

I would suggest calling your "fraud investigator"/initial contact person and ask them if they are/were an actual employee of USLA at the time, or an independent contractor. Just leave a message if they don't answer their phone
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:57 PM
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Service Provider Agreement-Money back guarantee
If someone has one of these thats is different in any way
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I will also upload copies of the attorney client form they want you to sign
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We are soliciting for input on public events for the USLA issue. If you have any ideas to share, please follow this link and post them there:

http://www.fightbackinsac.com/forums...ead.php?t=7536

wantmy$back,

I'm glad you found how to use the file upload.
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